Interview with Robin Broad, an international economist and Professor in the School of International Service at American University and John Cavanagh, director of the Washington-DC based Institute for Policy Studies. They co-authored the new book, The Water Defenders: How Ordinary People Saved A Country From Corporate Greed, published by Beacon Press. Their book and our conversation takes us deep into the black-box of the World Bank’s arbitration board of the World Bank. The struggle of Salvadoreans to protect their water for life has lessons for people engaged in similar struggles against the power of capital throughout the world.